Vanessa Floats
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Short explanation

Ta damage kai frame data einai apo mia periodo pou eixa spasei to pad mou paizontas arcade mode sto very hard kai ka8isa sto training mode kai dokimasa kapos pio makroskelos ta floats. To apotelesma einai oti ousiastika ta 3anaegrapsa apo tin arxi kai auti ti fora auta pou grafo einai 95% correct.

Ta floats einai profanos katigoriopoihmena ana stance kai ana floater.

DS

On HIT

df+p+k

To pio aplo DS floater tis, 22 dmg on hit, 33 on counterhit. High, throw safe (-7), semi-circular.

  • f+p,k,k float: 41 damage
  • p+k,p,db+k float: 45 dmg, middleweights only - ston jacky pianei, ston brad pianei, ston jeffry oxi, stin aoi oxi, ston lei-fei oxi. Needs testing.

Stick to f+p,k,k.

G,df+u_d+p

High, circular. H diafora meta3u ton duo version einai oti i mia einai ligo pio argi alla throw safe eno i alli einai kapos pio grigori alla -11. On hit pantos kanoun kai oi duo to idio float, paromoio me auto tou df+p+k.

  • f+p,k,k float: 41 dmg

(d+k CH),p

I agkonia meta apo to low kick kanei 14 damage kai slam down fuft on hit. Btw h sega ekane tin xari stin vanessa kai an i low klotsia parei ton antipalo on CH tote i agkonia einai guaranteed combo.

  • f+p,df+k float: ~25 damage, strict timing.
  • u+p oki: 25 damage

Guess which one i'm doing?

f+k+g

Mia overhead klotsia, arketa safe (-5 on block) gia to damage (25 on hit, 37 on CH) pou bgazei. Exei megalutero range apo o,ti deixnei kai pianei suxna. I fterna tis magikis arbulas pou legame. Tespa to move kanei slam down fdfa.

  • f+p,df+k float: ~27 dmg, strict timing, whiffs an to f+k+g xtupisei apo megali apostasi.
  • u+p oki: 25 damage

Stick to u+p oki. Megali apogoiteusi giati o jacky exei mia akribos idia klotsia apo tin opoia omos bgazei ena oraio float.

db+k+g

Mia klotsia paromoia me tin proigoumeni me tin diafora oti einai pio argi, ligotero safe (-7) alla me sabaki properties enantion low attacks sta teleutaia frames, parolo pou den to grafei sto vfdc, epeidi metraei san jump attack. Damage 30 on hit, 45 on CH. Apo ta liga floaters tin vanessa pou paizoun megalo rolo ta weight classes :

  • p,p,p,k float: lightweights only
  • f+p,k,k: middleweights only
  • f+p,df+k float: 30 dmg

Exo tin entuposi pos an i kinisi einai CH pianoun pio pollous ta alla duo prota floats. Prosopika omos kano f+p,df+k enantion olonon kai as xano damage giati einai auto pou kanei connect pio consistantly, ane3artitos barous, apostasis klp.

b,b+k+g

On hit i kinisi exei built in back-dash kai kanei crumble stun on hit. Einai kai cancellable. Otan o antipalos arxisei kai peftei exete 3 epiloges:

  • d+p bounce DF+k: difficult timing, ~25 dmg
  • f+p,df+k float: 30 dmg, open stance only
  • b+k float: ~24 dmg
  • u+p oki: 25 dmg
  • low throw: escapable

Ta floats einai duskola, to oki exei paneukolo input gia 25 damage eno ta low throws mporoun na bgaloun 50 i 55 damage. Prosopika suni8os stin arxi tou gurou an einai gemati i mpara mou pao gia throw giati den exo na xaso tpt giati akoma kai na spasei to low throw i vanessa einai se positive frames, meta pao gia to float.

On COUNTER

hold G,u_d+p CH

Se auto to floater i vanessa lugizei to soma tis sta plagia, pros tin o8oni i pros to ba8os analoga me to an patisate to u i to d, kai xonei mia mpounia sto nefro tou antipalou gia 20 damage, 30 on CH. Xrisimi kinisi an deite/problepsete oti o antipalos 8a sas epite8ei me grigori mid i high kinisi pou den 8a sas kanei track. Eidallos i kinisi einai sto -12 on block, 0 on hit. On CH loipon, o antipalos pa8ainei crumble stun. Exete 8EORITIKA tis idies 3 epiloges opos pio pano, omos to float einai diaforetiko:

  • d+p bounce DF+k float: difficult timing, 26 dmg
  • f+p,df+k float: G,d+p only, ~30 dmg
  • b+k float: ~24 dmg
  • u+p oki: 25 dmg
  • low throw: escapable

Prosopika eite pao gia throw eite gia oki giati to float einai polu duskolo na kanei connect.

b,f+k CH

Parolo pou auti i klotsia ginetai suni8os gia ta sabaki properties tis, on CH kanei float. For the record, to p einai special high. Auti i kinisi kanei float ton antipalo ligo pio makria etsi prepei ta floats e3artountai kai edo apo to baros tou antipalou alla oi katigories den einai akribos opos prin (px. vs Goh den pianei to f+p,k,k). Opos kai stin proigoumeni paromoia periptosi apo to na psaxnomai kano f+p,df+k pou pianei se olous. Exo tin entuposi pos den prepei na kanei kaneis to canned p meta an 8elei na bgalei to max damage, anyway.

  • Floats need testing

p,df+p CH

I vanessa exei kai apo ta duo stances p,df+p CH floaters alla apo to OS ta punches tis einai pio grigora me apotelesma na min kanei bgainei counter hit to deutero punch. Sounds weird i know, but trust me. Apo to defensive stance omos auto einai to monadiko p string tis vanessa pou einai a3iologo, kai kanei para polu kalo mixup me cancel tou p string se throw.

  • f+p,k,k float: Needs testing
  • low throw: Needs testing

p+k,p CH

To deutero punch aftou tou string exei sxedon to idio animation me to df+p+k kai on CH exei kai ta idia properties. Bebaia einai polu duskolo ena high move se CH meta apo ena mid alla tespa, uparxei.

  • f+p,k,k float: 41 dmg

OS

On HIT

f+p+k

I kinsi auti einai *ola ta lefta*. Einai high kai -6 on block *alla* FFS einai 14 frames. Dld apo to offensive exei floater me ta idia frames pou apo to defensive exei jab. ABUSE.

  • df+p+k,k float: 28 dmg, strict timng
  • u+p oki: 25 dmg

b,f+p+k

Slow, half circular, safe on block.

  • canned p
  • other floats needed

(d+k,p),p & (f+k,k,p),p

Low high high kai mid high high high. Apo ta duo, monaxa to proto a3izei kapos epeidi to low-high pianei pio eukola enantion human opponents, idaitera mias kai i vanessa menei or8ia to proto low kick. Enta3ei, auta ta duo strings 8eoritika kanoun slam alla, sobara, opoios den ta kanei block einai anapiros, mi sou po dld an den ta skupsei.

  • u+p oki: 25 dmg

f+k+g

Idio input kai properties me tin antistoixi kinisi tou defensive stance.

  • u+p oki: 25 dmg
  • df+p+k,k float: needs testing
  • d+p -> df+k,k float: needs testing

db+k+g

Kai auti i kinisi einai koini meta3u ton duo stances. Apo to offensive dustuxos i paizei polu megalutero rolo an i kinisi piasei ton antipalo se counterhit giati auto to stance den exei to f+p,df+k pou na pianei enantion olonon :/

  • b,f+p,p,p,k float: 35 dmg, strict input, to trito punch kanei whiff se closed stance.
  • p -> df+p+k,k float: closed, needs testing.
  • f,f+p float: 25 dmg, EASY

b,b+k+g

To trito koino floater tis vanessa gia ta duo stances tis. Na min ta 3analeme, on hit exete 3 epiloges:

  • df+p+k,k float: 28 dmg
  • b,f+p,p,p,k float : must check
  • u+p oki: 25 dmg
  • low throws: escapable

On COUNTER

hold F,k CH

Tricky input alla grigoro, safe, polu range, half-circle tracking, 22 damage on CH kai ola auta gia 16 frames execution. Krima pou einai high alla min ta 8eloume kai ola dika mas.

  • f+p,p,k float: 24 dmg
  • p,p,k float: 14 dmg, sumbainei an biasteite me to inputkai 3exasete to f, so keep steady.

p,df+p CH

Sta xartia eukolo alla se anti8esi me to antistoixo move apo defensive auto gia na bgei se CH prepei i proti kinisi na min kanei connect, ousiastika dld o antipalos na skupsei tin proti kinisi kai meta na paei gia kapoio while standing attack i throw.

  • f+p,p,k float: 24 dmg

df+p,p CH

Mia apo ta idia, kai xeirotera diladi giati exei tragika mikro range auti i kinisi. Ego pantos otan bgainei eimai panta oso 3afniasmenos oso kai o antipalos.

  • df+p+k,k float: 28 dmg

k,p CH

Idia properties me to intruder hook on CH

  • b,f+p,p,p,k float: 35 dmg
  • low throw: escapable

While Standing k

Auti i kinisi exei leei jaw collapse on counter hit, san tin gonatia tou Goh. Ti na sas po, den brika kapoio float gi autin, sorry. VFdc forums suggest:

  • low throws: escapable
  • f,f+k -> f+p+k -> takedown
  • f,f+k -> delay -> f+p+k -> float

Sunoptika

Vanessa Lewis float starters :

  • DS: df+p+k — (d+k,)p — G,uf_df+p — G,u_d+p CH — b,f+k CH — (p,)df+p CH — (p+k,)p CH
  • OS: f+p+k — b,f+p+k — (d+k,p,)p — (f+k,k,p,)p — F,k CH — (p,)df+p — (df+p,)p — (k,)p CH — WS k CH
  • Both: f+k+g — db+k+g — b,b+k+g

Vanessa Lewis float finishers :

  • DS: p,p,p,k — f+p,k,k — f+p,df+k
  • OS: f+p,k,k — b,f+p,p,p,k — df+p+k,k
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