Vanessa Moves

Stance-Independant moves

I vanessa loipon exei duo stances. Stin arxi ka8e gurou xoropidaei anemela san to mamou8 sto ice age 2, xara tin opoia i sega metefrase os defensive stance. Patontas p+k+g pernaei sto offensive stance, opou den xoropidaei alla kounetai mpros piso san heavymetalas se rave party on bad drugs. Auto pou mas endiaferei einai oti i defensive stance exei pio arges kiniseis kai i offensive pio grigores. Oi duo autes stances exoune diaforetiko moveset, ektos apo merikes e3aireseis:

Punches:

df+p Cut Upper/Upercut

I pio grigori kinisi tis vanessa+++1one. Sta 10 frames omos min perimenete 8aumata omos: +2 on hit, +4 on counter kai polu mikro range. Apo defensive auti i kinisi einai lifesaver - eidika enantion tis Sarah, otan kanei flamingo in your face kai oles tis oi kiniseis einai pio grigores apo to 14 frame p tou or8iou ippopotamou pou legetai vanessa.

Apo offensive to standing p exei sxedon tin idia taxutita kai polu kalutera properties opote i kinisi xanei tin xrisimotita tis. Oso gia to followup (df+p,p dld) to opoio apokta den a3izei kai toso giati exei kai auto xeirotera properties apo to p,df+p. Use monaxa gia na 3ekolisete apo pano sas kamia sarah i kamia pai.

d+p Leg Guard Crush

To klassiko low punch. Sta 12 frames einai pio grigoro apo to standing punch tou defensive, idia taxutita me to standing punch sto offensive. Prosopika i always follow with WR+p on hit, WR+k on whiff.

p+k Heavy Hook/Chopping Hook

Parolo pou exoun diaforetika onomata ta properties tous einai idia kai gia ta duo stances. Genika sumpa8itiki mid kinisi gia 17 frames. Oi diafores einai sta followups:

Apo to defensive stance to p+k,p einai a3iologo kai spammable. Mporei na einai high alla mexri stigmis de mou to exoune skupsei (isos gi auto na legetai heavy hook combo, lol). Apo offensive, to followup einai kai auto mid alla ta properties tou einai gia klamata, opote den einai recommended. Genika oi kiniseis tis vanessa einai kaluteres apo defensive :/

b+p Heavy Impact

H triti pio argi kinisi tis vanessa. Mid, me frame advantage on hit and block, alla meta3u mas opoios den tin dei na erxetai apo ena xiliometro einai anapiros. Periergos to CPU epimenei na tin kanei block, opote einai safe, apo to sosto (megalo) distance fusika gia na min ginei interrupt. Genika endeiknuetai monaxa apo offensive, giati apo defensive to f,f+3 eiani pio consistant.

Kicks:

D/db+k (Sit Down) Low Kick

-14 on block kai -6/-4 on hit, on counter tipota? Den autoktono kalutera?

df+k Bone Crush Middle/Stopping toe

Staple move. Caution: mporei sta frames oi duo autes kiniseis na fainontai paraplisies, stin pragmatikotita omos den einai. Parolo pou einai spammable kai oi duo, exoun teleios diaforetika properties. Use analoga.

k+g Guard Crash Tornado

GOOOOOAL++ 39 frames execution+++ H deuteri pio argi kinisi tis vanessa. Kateu8eian apo to saolin soccer, kaluptei edafos, kanei track 360, stagger on block kai down on hit. Opoios den tin skupsei einai a3ios tis moiras tou.

d+k+g Low Spin Slicer

Alli mia prospa8eia na dosoune low attack stin vanessa. -5 on hit? De barao to kefali mou ston toixo kalutera? Edit: That said, i kinisi einai full circle attack kai high crush opote telika brisko ton eauto mou na tin xrisimopoio polu pio suxna apo o,ti arxika nomiza. Anaba8mologisi pros ta epano.

b+k+g Switch Back Middle

Mid, rixnei mia zempekia. Fast, safe, alla psilo useless giati i vanessa den exei a3iologes epiloges apo back turned. Stick with p+k.

f+k+g Heel Kick

Auti malista einai kinisi. -5 on block, slam on hit, deceptive range. I magiki arbula.

db+k+g Leg Bomber

San ena heavier heel kick, alla me sabaki. Monadiko problima eiani oti merikes fores, otan o antipalos einai sto edafos kai i vanessa kolimeni apano tou, i kinisi den kanei reliably track. Se tetoies periptoseis, an eimai se defensive stance protimo to db+p, kai as kanei to miso damage.

b,b+k+g Back Charge Kick

Built-in backdash, chargeable, stagger on hit, epiloges gia cancel mexri to teleutaio frame, nta3ei, me ola auta epomeno einai i kinisi auti na einai i pio argi tis vanessa me execution time 47 frames. Ta opoia btw pernane deceptively quick otan me to backdash apofeugeis ena string pou o allos exei kanei buffer

evade+p+k+g

Enta3ei, aisxro recovery on block alla suni8os i kinisi ginetai me ti logiki oti 8a kanei counter opote ok.

Throws:

p+g Canyon Dive

Allazei meries me ton antipalo.

f+p+g Elbow Rush

Proxoraei ton antipalo aka. walking the dog. O,ti prepei gia ring outs otan o antipalos einai cornered kai kanei amuna apo reflex.

d+p+k+g

Monaxa enantion crouched opponents. To defensive version walks the dog, to offensive apla xonei mia gonatia, sux bigtime, don't.

df+p+k+g

Gonaties vs. crouching opponents kai edo. Kai ta duo versions einai kalutera apo ta antistoixa d+p+k+g.

Sunoptika

d/df/b+p
d/db/df+k
p+k
ola ta k+g
ola ta p+k+g

Spammable moves

Oriste merikes kiniseis pou pianoun kat'epanalipsi enantion tou AI, up'orismenon proupo8eseon fusika. Arxika nomiza oti upo autes tis sun8ikes to mixanima xazeuei kai troei tis idies kiniseis sti seira. Omos me to ligo testing pou exo kanei vs. human players tolmo na po pos 8a perasoun kamposes:

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df+k Bone crush middle

Auti i kinisi exei ena idaniko range, oso newb kai an akougetai auto. To idaniko auto range einai otan i vanessa kanei left hand hold kai meta arm break. Ta frames pou dinei auti i reversal einai tosa polla pou pernane 3 df+k toulaxiston. Bebaia se auti tin periptosi einai kalutera na kanei kaneis kati allo apo to df+k alla that's beside the point. To 8ema einai oti auti einai i idaniki apostasi. To df+k kanei hit kai i apostasi menei i idia (o antipalos upoxorei osi apostasi proxoraei i vanessa) kai i kinisi mporei na epanalif8ei. Kai upo kanonikes sun8ikes. To AI (opos kai polloi paixtes) einai trigger happy kai paei na kanei kati suni8os kai troei kai tin deuteri, kai tin triti kai tin tetarti klotsia. Prosopika milontas, exontas auti tin apostasi pia sto uposuneidito an do ton antipalo ekei, i spam. An pali kapoios paixtis to ma8ei kai paei na kanei block, i kinisi can be charged, surprise mofo. Eipame omos, range matters, apo konta den ginetai, jab material, ok?

p+k,p Heavy Hook Combo

Tora auto prepei na einai flaw tou AI den e3igeitai allios. Nta3ei, boi8ane kai ta frames. Otan faei ena p+k,p, ta epomena duo tria mexri na spro3ei i vanessa ton antipalo makria einai sxedon guaranteed.

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df+k,k Stopping toe, second impact

To spammable mid high tis vanessas apo offensive auti ti fora. Ta properties tou p+k,p einai diaforetika kai kanei perissotero push apo auto to stance kai den einai toso spammable. That said, apo suni8ia merikes fores to kano kai auto spam kai pianei alla it's unsafe, opote den to sunistao k toso.

f,f+p Long barrel blow (sic)

Auti i kinisi an kanei hit kani push ton antipalo oso akribos xreiazetai gia na eisai se range gia mia epanalipsi. Alles duo treis fores, kanei kai arketo damage auti i mpourda, match telos. Sun oti o ixos einai xortastikos.

SI

evade+p+k+g Barrier Kick

Lol, spam it vs. trigger happy ppl, guaranteed frustration and laughs. Otan to kanei kai o allos roflcopters. Pera apo tin xara, douleuei kai enantion trigger pitbull AIs san tis pai, lau, lion, brad klp.

f+p+g Elbow Rush

Akougetai periergo na einai ena throw spammable alla to cpu otan to kanei escape 90% kanei block meta. Opote, mias kai on escape i vanesa den brisketai se disadvantage, kai einai kai se throw range, mporei kaneis na 3anadokimasei to throw. Mias kai to AI exei tin tasi na ta spaei se higher difficulty settings mou tuxainei na kano 4 fores to throw auto stin seira, mexri na petuxei.

Sunoptika

Vanessa Lewis spammable moves, tested vs. CPU:

  • df+k
  • p+k,p
  • f,f+p (apo offensive)
  • evade + pkg

Useless moves

Loipon na kano grigora ena post giati me tin eikona pou ekana link sto general forum paizei na me gino banned gia kapoio diastima. I vanessa exei merikes kiniseis pou einai toso unsafe pou den a3izoun na tis xrisimopoiei kaneis:

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(Neutral) p+g throw

An o antipalos kanei instant recover sikonetai prin i vanessa na teleiosei to animation tis kinisis tis. Try to use any other throw instead.

p strings

Trelo frame disadvantage. Prosopika prospa8o na kano monaxa p se throw mixup me p,df+p.

hold G,u_df+p

Duo kiniseis me built in sidestep kai float on hit alla arges, kai high. Aplo sidestep kai meta df+p+k, exei kalutero recovery kai mporeite na to stamatisete sti mesi an deite oti o antipalos kanei low guard.

b+k+g

Mia klotsia pou gurizei tin plati. GG. Monaxa an exete nikisei ton antipalo kai 8elete na kanete kana fancy wall jump prin/afou teleiosei o guros.

(f,f+p,)p.

Mporei to f,f+p na einai xrisimo giati kanei track f kai kanei duck ta highs alla to followup tou einai useless. To df+k bgainei to idio grigora, exei to idio range kai polu kalutera properties. Akoma kai to f+p einai kalutero. Prospika prospa8o na min oloklirono to string kai eite na kano throw eite df+k.

k

To d+k einai safos alutero. Oso gia ta k,d_u+k ena pragma 8a po: -12 on hit.

holf G, u_db+k HIT f+p+g

Multipart. Xaza ligo damage gia toso unsafe kinisi pou gia na xtupisei ton antipalo prepei na kanei move forwards i na epiti8etai, on hit pernaei se hand hold pou spaei dld tpt guaranteed apo damage. Kante kati allo. EDIT: FFS this move is godly, IGNORE EVERYTHING YOU JUST READ, it's the only move that can save my butt against (Zaelock's) pressure Aoi.

d+p+k

Apisteuta argi kinisi xoris na kanei track i down on hit i esto on counterhit? Kai min mou pei kaneis tpt peri force crouch, i kinisi einai toso argi pou opoios den tin kanei sidestep, backstep, outpunch me d+p re aderfe einai klinika nekros.

OS

(Neutral) p+g throw

Gia tous idious logous.

p,p strings

Oxi ola tis, monaxa to pp - an 8elete high high attack kante pk. an 8elete high mid kante p,df+p. kai fusika mixup me p, throw.

k

Efoson uparxei to F,k o monadikos logos gia na xrisimopoih8ei auti i kinisi einai to k,f+p+k cancel se lancer.

f,f+p+k

einai pio argo apo to cancel se lancer tis parapano grammis. use that instead.

b+k+g

i klotsia pou gurizei tin plati. eipame, den exei kales epiloges apo plati i vanessa, use sth else.

(df+k,)k & (p+k,)p

To df+k kai to p+k einai a3iologes mid kiniseis alla ta followups tous einai axrista. Auto pou prospa8o na kano einai na pernao apo to ena sto allo - eite df+k,p+k eite p+k,df+k.

f,f+k+g HIT f+p+g.

Opoios exxei dei toulaxiston mia fora tin vanessa na trexei pros ta pano tou kanei low guard. sa na min eftane auto i kinisi auti einai akoma pio argi giati i vanessa stamataei gia ena kafe prin kanei to low kick. tespa me ola auta 8elo na po pos auto to combo den bgainei pote, don't use it.

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