Vanessa Strategy

Edo 8a balo kana duo tips gia to pos na paizei kaneis me tin vanessa.

Canned strings

u+p oki -> p+k+g switch

Meta to u+p oki i vanessa kanei rol back se ena safe distance. Ekei einai pou ego prosopika pernao apo to ena stance sto allo. Einai ligo tsatsia giati den to pairnei xampari o antipalos suni8os kai perimenei alles kinsieis :)

b+p CH -> DS df+k or OS f,f+p

Auta prepei na enai combo pou poianei monaxa enantion tou AI giati pragmatika to b+p einai tragika argi kinisi. Genika einai na min ginei countered, pera apo auto i vanessa einai sta 8etika frames akoma kai on block, opote np, you're safe.

Se counterhit auti i kinisi dinei nai men polu frame advantage, dustuxos omos sproxnei ton antipalo polu makria gia na piasoun oi perissoteres kiniseis tis. Apo DS i vanessa den exei polles epiloges, i monadiki kinisi pou exei guaranteed einai i klassiki sidekick tis. Apo OS i kaluteri tis epilogi einai to f,f+p. Exo tin entuposi oti pianei kai to f,f+k HIT f+p+k hit-throw se takedown alla den to exo testarei akoma.

k+g CH -> db/D+k

Se counterhit to low kick einai guaranteed, kai apo ta duo stances.

OS k+g BLOCKED -> f+p+k -> float

Apo to k+g se block dinei major stagger kai to f+p+k einai guaranteed. Follow up with f+p+k floats or oki. Genika opou deite stagger apo OS xoste f+p+k.

Apo DS den uparxei kati guaranteed alla ego prosopika pao gia f+p,k,k, anyway i an ais8anomai akoma pio tuxeros pao gia to full combo, df+p+k,f+p,k,k.

OS major wall stagger -> f+p+k -> float

To f+p+k einai 14 frames - even the cpu can't unstagger fast enough to avoid it. Follow with a float or just u+p oki for some easy damage.

Apo DS den uparxei kati guaranteed - to cpu prolabainei na kanei unstagger. Enantion human opponents pantos den xanete tipota na dokimasete to df+p+k, 8elei polu megala reflexes gia na kanei unstagger an8ropos toso grigora. Float me f+p,df+k giati ta alla floats kanoun whiff otan xtupaei o antipalos ston toixo.

DS WS p CH -> df+k

On CH to WS p kanei major stagger. To tutorial proteinei followup me df+k. Einai mia kali epilogi, kai safe an kanei unstagger o antipalos. An omos ais8aneste tuxeroi i an o antipalos sas den kanei grigora unstagger go with f+p,k,k gia big damage.

DS f,f+k -> f,f+k or f,f,df+k

To f,f+k tis vanessas apo to defensive stance einai oloidio me to ff3 tou Bruce sto tekken. Mid, me range kai damage, knock on hit, push on block. I diafora einai oti i vanessa exei follups (nigga einai fantarina, den koproskuliazei sto ghetto, lol).Covers distance, has range, throw safe, 360° tracking, serious damge. Abuse this move. Sobara, auti i kinisi einai o kurios logos pou paizo tin vanessa sxedon apokleistika apo to defensive stance, milame gia toso kala properties.

Me to pou kanei connect auti i klotsia 3anakante dash pros ton antipalo. An kanei roll, xtupiste to k gia na 3anakanei i vanessa tin idia klotsia i opoia 8a ton kanei hit on wakeup. An meinei sto patoma to dash sas exei ferei arketa konta oste to df+k oki na kanei connect gia free damage.

Prosoxi omos, an to f,f+k kopanisei ton antipalo sto toixo kanei recovery polu pio grigora. Se auti tin periptosi spam df+k, an o antipalos einai sto xoma 8a kanei oki, se periptosi kolofardias ginetai input gia mid kick kai mini juggle.

DS left hand hold p+g -> f,f -> df+p+k -> float

To p+g apo to aristero hand hold dinei tosa polla frames pou dash k meta floater einai guaranteed.

DS right hand hold p+g -> df+k oki

An exei piasei ton antipalo apo to allo xeri to oki einai guaranteed.

Vanessa VF4E opening strings

Rant

In this section we'll discuss how a vane player should open his round. In VF4 and VF4evo vane always begins in the defensive stance, as oposed to VF4ft and VF5 where she can switch between stances with pkg before the round begins the same way a jacky player can switch legs.

Gia na parafraso to RealUltimatePower, vanessas are mammal and they fight ALL the time. San zoo or8io loipon exei to pio argo standing punch sto paixnidi. Milame gia bodi kanonika. Ka8e fora pou arxizei to round prepei na to 8umaste auto. Repeat after me "I cannot outpunch shit". Chant it, kante to sutra, de me noiazei.

Back Charge Kick

To AI loipon mou allaze ta fota kanonika me to kalimera sas kai ka8e fora kai arxiza to paixnidi me ta 2/3 tis mparas mou. Opote epsa3a sto net gia kana video, na do ti kanoun oi epxerts. Se auto pou brika loipon, vanessa vs. wolf, o tupos me to po arxize to round ekane b,b+k+g,d kai pernage apo to offensive sto defensive stance. Se ka8e game. Eipa na to dokimaso k ego kai mou alla3e pali ta fota o upologistis. Verdict, not safe, alla mporei na xrisimopoih8ei enantion allon bodion, wolf, jacky k akira dld.

To problima mou loipon peremene to idio: i pai, o tragos tis kai i sarah mou kanane panta upoxreotiko rektifie tin mouri me to pou arxize to round. Mi briskontas lusi sto net apo vids, kai me tin gnosti elliniki rusi pratice makes perfect eipa de peirazei, den 3anagurnao sto lion mou tin spaei i foni tou, kai epemeina sti vanessa. "Exei reversals" skeftika, "e, 8a kano reversal me to pou arxizei o round, guessing game, fifty fifty, mia 8a tis fao, mia oxi". E, tis etroga, pio asxima. Reversal gia opening einai autoktonia giati oi pi8anotites den einai fifty fifty kai otan tros gonatia stin agkonia to paratas grigora. Oxi reversal, oute neutral vs. punches, thx.

Sabakis

Reboots gia na krati8ei to record loipon mexri na bro kapoia lusi. Forum time. Ema8a poia moves kanoune crush kai stamatisa pia na manteuo. Anti8eta prospa8isa na beltioso ta antanaklastika mou. Arxize me high punch o antipalos (katarameno lau family)? d+k,p kai u+p ego. Enallaktika db+k,WR k. Arxize me low (katarameno ai tou lion)? db+k+g sabaki kai f+p,k,k. Mids? Problima edo.

Block

Enantion ton mid openings jacky, aoi, goh, kage (panta vs. CPU, tora gia to ti kanoun oi paixtes consistantly den 3ero) giati 3afnika eprepe na ma8o ranges kai recovery times. Meta apo ligo kairo ta ema8a, at least auta pou xrisimopoiei to ai. An einai kana grigoro loipon, kai to kobo oti den mporo na to kano b,b+k+g, to kano block kai pao gia throw. An mou alla3ei ta fota kana duo fores kai suniditopoihso oti den einai guaranteed to throw, block kai p,p,p,k. Nai, 3ero, e8aba auto to sring pio pano alla to ai to troei olo 90%. Alli lusi einai to d+p. To opoio btw einai pio grigoro apo to standing p tis. Giati san zoo, sta tessera einai pio grigori, tespa. Opote d+p,while rising p,f+p,k,k. Godamn safe too.

Sunoptika

Vanessa Lewis opening strings, tested vs. CPU:

  • d+k,p,u+p vs highs
  • db+k+g,f+p,k,k vs. lows
  • block,throw vs. mids me range
  • b,b+k+g vs. mids xoris range
  • (block) d+p,WR p,f+p,k,k when in doubt.

Tips vs. AI

Loipon, an kai me duskolia 3anaggizo to vf4evo meta apo ta videos tou vf5 *drool* pou ka8omai kai blepo, here are some tips enantion tou AI tou paixnidiou:

vs. Akira :

Back charge kick (b,b+k+g) is your friend. Oi mises tou kiniseis einai arges kai se whiff ka8etai, oi alles mises den exoun toso megalo range. Suni8os teleiono ka8e round enantion tou me duo backcharge kicks + grab, next.

vs. Aoi :

Merikes fores to AI to parakanei me ta reversals gi auto enantion tis aoi sumbouleuo eite na pio polla lows apo suni8os (parolo pou ta low tis vanessa sux0r's ligaki) eite offensive stance pou einai pio grigori, exei gonatia sto f,f+k kai takedowns, kai strings pou arxizoun apo low, kai telospanton to piasate oti den bgainei toso eukola to reversal. Episis, an kaneis paizei me vanessa gia ta dika tis reversals apo to defensive stance, forget it, enantion tis aoi den exei noima giati oi mises tis kiniseis mporoun na stamatisoun stin mesi.

vs. Brad :

Me baras, se baro. Exo tin entuposi pos to AI petaei randomly ta sways tou kai oxi mono den einai apotelesmatika alla den kanei finish kai ta juggles tou kai sto telos xanei monos tou.

vs. Dural :

Apexo. O,ti experience exo einai apo to quest mode opou den einai selectable opote sorry, no tips.

vs. Goh :

O goh exei ta idia problimata me ton akira : den exei grigora strings pou na kanoun cover distance kai se polla moves ka8etai kai xaskei meta. back charge kick + grab x2, death, parakato.

vs. Jacky :

O Jacky einai kalo match-up gia tin vanessa. Idio range pano kato, kapos ligotero damage apo apla strings alla pio grigoros. Sugkekrimena vs. AI, se olo to quest mode uparxoun treis opponents pou mporoun na spasoun to throw meta to back charge kick, ek ton opoion oi duo einai jacky. Pera apo auto tpt to e3airetiko, enjoy a balanced fight.

vs. Jeffry :

Einai genika argos ektos apo tin gonatia. Arght! i hate that move :/ Genika mash p i p+k(,p). Xoris kapoia kinisi pou na dinei kalo frame advantage gia throw i gonatia, arxizei ta low punch i prospa8ei na kanei duck kapoio high gia na kanei to while rising tou. Oso i vanessa enallasei high kai mid safe attacks einai kai i idia safe.

vs. Kage :

Ektos apo to broken throw tou kai ta loipa ring outs tou den kanei damage. Malakies, den 3ero, ton psilosixainomai kai den prosexo ti kano alla kerdizo opote de nomizo na apotelei problima enantion tis vanessa.

vs. Lau :

Problima. Grigora punches pou kaluptoun kai apostasi = no back charge kicks, no shadow slicers (f,f+k). Punish otidipote den einai df+k i p+k,p. 8elei kala reflexes o atimos. Bebaia merikes fores auti i mania tou na kanei punish ta panta einai kai to downfall tou : prosopika kano spam barrier kick (evade+p+k+g) i spam df+k sto max range kai psofaei monos tou epixeirontas na arxisei ka8e fora p string.

vs. Lei :

Ka8e fora pou allazei stasi kollimenos pano stin vanesa meta apo kapoio string einai kai mia eukairia gia back charge kick punish. An alla3ei stance makria, f,f+k kai u+p oki. Rinse, repeat.

vs. Lion :

To AI tou lion einai low happy. Abuse ta 2 sabaki tis vanessa, defensive elbow (db+p) kai leg bomber (df+k+g) kurios to deutero giati to AI prospa8ei na ekmetaleutai to gegonos oti ta lows tou lion exoune range kai etsi to leg bomber prolabainei na bgei. Meta f+p,k,k juggle apo ta floats kana duo fores kai telos o lion.

vs. Pai :

H pai einai akoma grigori apo ton gero tis. Milame gia ffs katastasi, akoma kai an paizei i vanessa apo to offensive stance pou ta moves einai pio grigora genika, pali einai tragika pio grigori. Den exo kapoio sobaro tip alla genika enantion tis einai psiloadunato na kerdisei i vanessa xoris df+p kai d+p poking.

vs. Sarah :

H standar taxtiki tou AI me tin sarah einai na kollaei pano mou kai na kanei flamengo me tin logiki oti ola ta moves pou bgainoun apo auto to stance einai pio grigora apo ta dika mou. Kai dikaios dld giati apo defensive to mono pou prolabainei na tin baresei einai to df+p. Epeidi prosopika me boleuei to defensive stance basizomai monaxa se df+p spamming alla eidallos i sumbouli mou einai vs. sarah na paizei kaneis apo offensive.

vs. Shun :

O shun xanei gia ton idio logo pou xanei kai o brad - to AI 3aplonei sto patoma se random stigmes. I kinisi pou ton katastrefei einai to heel kick (f+k+g) pou ton pianei 3aplomeno i akoma kai otan kanei ekeino to 4plo hopkick pros ta piso. Pera apo auto genika prepei na apofeugetai to f,f+k enantion tou an kataferei kai apomakrun8ei (parolo pou einai staple vanessa move gia na kanei cover ground) giati to kanei polu suxna avoid. Forward dash kai meta f+k+g einai polu pio safe bet.

vs. Vanessa :

Lol gmt edo einai pou fainetai oti den eimai complete vanessa player :/ To AI paizei teleios diaforetika apo emena me tin vanessa : apo defensie einai reversal happy me tis klotsies kai neutral hand hold me ta punches. Apo offensive, well, einai offensive, kanei sunexeis strings. To entelos anti8eto apo emena dld pou 3ulo rixno apo to defensive kai to offensive to exo gia to takedown. Tespa. Tips : prosoxi me to back chrarge kick, merikes fores to AI antidra kanontas kai auto to idio move. Den kanoume duck giati to AI takes advaqntage apo to e3ofraniko range tou low grab tis vanessa. Genika otan to AI paizei se ena stance einai protimotero na paizei kaneis apo to allo, takedowns otan paei na kanei reversal apo defensive, spam df+k otan einai string happy apo offensive.

vs. Wolf :

Oso periergo kai an akougetai, o wolf katastrefetai kai autos eukola apo sabaki, an kai gia diaforetikous logous apo ton lion. To AI kanei polu suxna use to low punch tou, den 3ero an einai epeidi psanxei gia setups i apla epeidi einai mia apo tis liges grigores kiniseis pou exei (to idio isxuei kai gia tin vanessa btw), opos kai na exei omos den einai kai toso grigori kai an to perimenei kaneis kai exei kai moderately kala reflexes to df+p sabaki bgainei eukola, kai meta f+P,k,k float juggle. Genika, opos kai vs. jeffry, einai pio safe na kanei kaneis sabaki i mash p enantion tou para amuna.

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