This is my cheat-sheet for vanessa's floats. There are two separate columns, "challenging" and "easy" floats. Here's my definition of challenging:
- hard rebounce timing (see note)
- midkick needs special input to avoid getting a stomp instead (DF+k)
- require footing-checking
If you're feeling confident with these things, use the left column instead :-) If there's no combo listed under "challenging" floats, well the combo isn't challenging, anyway :-)
Note: osa floats exoun d+p einai rebounce combos kai exoune duskolo timing.
DS
Opoio DS float ginetai me p+k,p;p,p,pkg afinei tin vanessa sto OS. Gia opoion den 8elei na alla3ei style mporei na 8usiasei ligo damage kai na kanei float me p+k,p;p,p,k. An pisteuete oti mporeite na ftasete ton antipalo ston toixo tote to pio damaging float einai to p+k,p;p,p,p,k.
Episis osa floats exoune punch strings endukneitai na ginoun me F+p,p,p,k, input me to opoio i Vanessa kanei ena bima pros ta mprosta me tin proti mpounia tis kai kanei float kalutera.
Floater Input | Float Type | Challenging Floats | Easy Floats | Comments |
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b,f+k CH p (41) | Down | p;DF+k (24 ALL) | p+k,pkg (25 except Wolf) p;p+k,pkg (27 except Wolf, Jeffry, Akira, Lau) p,p,pkg (19 ALL) p;df+k+g (22? except Wolf) |
RELIABLE |
db+k+g NH (30) | Down | p;DF+k (24 ALL) | f+p,k,k (36 sometimes) p,p,p,k (32 CLOSED sometimes) p;df+k+g (22? except Wolf) |
Combos are very range & stance dependant :-( |
WR k CH (30) | Down | p;DF+k (24 except heavyweights) | p,p,p,k (32 CLOSED lightweights) k (12 except Wolf) |
May whiff at extreme range |
BT k CH (30) | Down | :-( | df+k oki (13) | Can't find anything better :-( |
df+p+k NH (22) G+uf/df+p NH (19) BT p+k NH (19) p+k,p CH (22) |
Head Crumble | :-) | p+k,p;p,p,pkg (48 ALL) p+k,p;p,p,k (46 ALL) |
RELIABLE |
p,df+p CH (18) | Stomach Crumble | :-) | f+p,k,k (41 ALL) p+k,p;p,p,pkg (48 some lightweights) |
RELIABLE Escapable low throws (50 or 55) |
b,b+k+g NH standing (24) G+u/d+p CH (30) |
Stomach Crumble | df,df+p,pkg (24 ALL) d+p;DF+p,pkg (25? ALL) f+p,k,k (?? lightweights long range) |
u+k (?? ALL) p+k,pkg (25~28 OPEN & closed except Akira, Blaze, Lion, Shun, Pai, Eileen, Aoi) f+p,df+k (29 lightweights) |
Escapable low throws (50 or 55) |
b+p Side NH (28) OM k Side CH (31) df+k Side CH (34) f,f+p Side CH (??) |
New! Side Crumple | p+k,p:DF+k (41 ALL) | f+p,k,k (37 ALL) | RELIABLE |
d+k,p NH (14) d+k CH p (32) |
Slam | f+p,k,k (33 OPEN some characters) | p+k,pkg (23 ALL) | RELIABLE |
New! b,f+p+k CH (30) | Slam | p;DF+k (16? except Wolf) d+p;DF+p,pkg (25 CLOSED except Wolf) p,p,p,k & p;p+k,pkg (30 OPEN except Wolf) |
p+k,pkg (23 except Wolf) p;f+k (14 ALL) |
Guaranteed u+p oki (22) Not sure if those work on sabaki hit |
Ver.C u+k NH (25) New! f+p+k,p NH (18) f+p+k NH p (47) |
Slam | p;DF+k (16? except Wolf) d+p;DF+p,pkg (25 OPEN except Wolf) p,p,p,k & p;p+k,pkg (30 CLOSED except Wolf) |
p,p,pkg (17~21 exepct Wolf) p;f+k (14 ALL) |
Guaranteed u+p oki (22) __ like b,f+p+k except for stance |
f+k+g NH (25) | Slam | d+p;DF+p,pkg (25 short range) | :-( | Guaranteed u+p oki (22) |
OS
Genika ta floats apo to OS einai pio duskola kai weight-dependant.
Floater Input | Float Type | Challenging Floats | Easy Floats | Comments |
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New! IS p NH pkg (29) | Down | p;DF+k (24 ALL) | p+k,pkg (25 except Wolf) p;p+k,pkg (27 except Wolf, Jeffry, Akira, Lau) p,p,pkg (19 ALL) p;df+k+g (22? except Wolf) |
RELIABLE Identical to DS b,f+k CH p float |
New! df+k Side CH pkg (??) | Down | * | * | *To test |
New! hcf+p CH (37) | Down | :-) | d+k,p,p (30*) d+k,p,pkg (27*) f,f+k (?? ALL) |
*Exact recoverable? |
b,f+p+k NH? (30) | Down | DF+k,k (?? ALL) | canned p (18? ALL) | Needs buffering |
New! df+p CH (30) | Down | DF+k,k (?? ALL) | p,k,p (32 except Wolf, Jeffry, Lion) | |
df+p+k CH (30) | Down | :-) | p;df+p+k,k & p,k,p (32 ALL) | RELIABLE |
New! uf+p NH (20) New! IS p+k NH (20) |
Down | f+p,pkg;DF+k (36 except heavyweights) | p;df+p+k,k & p,k,p (32 ALL) f+p,p,k (34 lightweights) |
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New! uf+k+g NH (26) | Down | f+p,pkg;DF+k (36 ALL) | f+p,p,k (34 ALL) p,k,p (32 ALL) f+p,pkg;p;df+k+g (34 except wolf) |
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New! uf+k+g CH (39) | Down | p;DF+k,p,p,pkg (42 ??) f+p,pkg;p+k,pkg (42 ??) f+p,pkg;f+p,df+k (42 ??) f+p,pkg;p,p,pkg (38 ??) |
f+k,k,p,p (43 Upper Mid & Lights) | |
BT p+k NH (19) F+k CH (24) |
Head Crumble | :-) | b,df+p+k;p,k,p (43 ALL) f+k,k,p,p (43 ALL) |
RELIABLE |
WR k CH (20) | Chin Crumble | b+k+g:p+g (56 except Pai, Blaze, Eileen, Lion, Shun) | df+k,pkg (35 ALL) uf+k+g (?? ??) |
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b,b+k+g NH standing (24) | Stomach Crumble | d+p;DF+k,p,p,pkg (41 ALL) | df+p+k,k (28 ALL) d+k,p,p (31 except heavyweights) |
Escapable low throws (30 or 50) |
b,b+k+g CH (36) p,df+p CH (25) k,p CH (24) New! hcf+P NH (38) |
Stomach Crumble | d+p;DF+k,p,p,pkg (41 ALL) | f+p,k,k (39 ALL) | RELIABLE |
New! hcf+P,d (27) | Foot Crumble | :-) | d+k,p,pkg (25) DF+k,k (24) |
Don't u+p pounce, it only does 16 damage |
b+p Side NH (28) OM k Side CH f,f+p Side CH b+k Side CH |
New! Side Crumple | b,df+p+k;p,k,p (43* ALL) | f+k,k,p,p (43 ALL*) f+k,k,p,pkg (40 ALL) b,f+p+k,p (37 ALL) |
*Last punch may whiff depending on stance/input speed |
New! IS p NH (18) | Slam | :-) | d+k,p,p (28 ALL) b,f+p+k,p (28 ALL) |
Guaranteed u+p oki (22) Pointless, use IS p,pkg instead |
New! b,df+p+k (20) | Slam | d+p;p+k,p (29 CLOSED) d+p;df+k,k (28 OPEN) |
:-( | Guaranteed u+p oki (22) |
f+p+k (20) | Slam | d+p;DF+k,k (28 CLOSED) d+p;p+k,p (29 OPEN) b,f+p,p,p,k (31 OPEN) DF+k,k (22 ALL) |
:-( | Guaranteed u+p oki (22) like b,df+p+k except for stance |
f+k+g (25) | Slam | d+p;DF+k,k (28 close range) | :-( | Guaranteed u+p oki (22) |